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INTERVIEW/02/11/2025

"Quality is not only about durability but about environmental and social impact"

Wendy Savage
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In this interview about sustainable challenges, Patagonia’s Wendy Savage explains why quality is not only a matter of long-lasting products but has to do with the impact of products when they are made. She also expresses how crucial communication is and how far Patagonia and parts of the textile industry already have come in terms of being more sustainable.

Wendy Savage is Senior Director of Social Impact and Transparency at Patagonia. On the social side she looks after all impacts when it comes to labor and human rights. The transparency part focuses on knowing where products come from. Her job is to ensure that everything Patagonia tells their customers about fibers and how products are made, is backed up with reliable information.

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ISPO.com: You are definitely the right person to talk to when it comes to quality, as quality is crucial for the lifecycle of a garment. So, what does quality mean to you and to Patagonia?

Wendy: Quality for us is not just about durability, though that’s important. It’s also about the environmental and social impacts of our products. For example, we carefully consider the impact of the fibers we use. Additionally, we focus on transparency, making sure we know where our materials come from and that our partnerships with suppliers are based on openness. It takes time to create such a holistic product, but the result is something that lasts a lifetime, can be repaired, and even given a second life—keeping it out of landfills.

Do you think, especially with fast fashion, that garment quality has lost its value in recent years or even decades?

Yes. When products are designed without considering how they can be repaired or are made with fibers that have a significant environmental impact, it’s a problem. Unfortunately, this has worsened over the years. At Patagonia, we’re doubling down on our responsibility to deliver high-quality products.

Wendy Savage and Claudia Klingelhöfer discuss how quality goes beyond durability to include environmental and social impact
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It’s often hard for consumers to distinguish between good and bad quality–why is this so?

We have so much information at our fingertips—sometimes too much. Consumers can start by looking at labels, certifications, and the types of fibers used. There are also organizations that rate brands based on various standards. It’s challenging, but as brands, we must communicate clearly and provide the information consumers need to make informed decisions.

As you said, communication is key. What role does marketing play in this?

Marketing plays a critical role, especially in education. At Patagonia, our philosophy isn’t about selling more products but rather informing customers so they can decide if they even need to buy a product. For instance, on our website, we offer both new and pre-loved products to highlight the importance of quality and mindful choices. Our marketing team is incredibly creative and works hard to translate technical information about quality, environmental efforts, and social impact into stories that customers can connect with.

It’s clear that responsible marketing and creating good products are crucial. But how can we, as a society, overcome overconsumption?

That’s a big challenge and something we’re actively addressing. For example, Patagonia creates educational content to engage consumers on this topic. One of our recent videos explores the psychological triggers behind the “buy, buy, buy” mindset. We’ve been hosting panels on overconsumption and its connection to environmentalism. There’s a lot of work to be done, especially with the sheer volume of disposable products out there, but education and awareness are key.

Jacke auf Kleiderbügel aus Karton
Patagonia plans to focus even more on its Worn Wear program in the upcoming year
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What role does legislation play from both a brand and consumer perspective?

Legislation is very important. When I started in this field over two decades ago, there wasn’t much interest in how products were made. Patagonia has always held itself to high voluntary standards, even when competing with brands that weren’t doing anything similar. It’s great to see that many of these voluntary efforts are now becoming part of legislation. While it will be challenging for brands that are just starting their journey, it’s necessary to scale good practices. Collaboration and sharing knowledge will help everyone move forward.

It’s amazing to see how much has changed in the last 20 years. What are Patagonia’s key focuses for 2025 in terms of quality?

We’re doubling down on our existing efforts, especially scaling up our Worn Wear program. The goal is to get repaired and pre-loved goods into more homes. There’s still work to be done in educating consumers about choosing pre-loved products over new ones. We’re also hosting pop-up stores to showcase unique, repaired items. Beyond that, we’re focusing on living wages, decarbonization, regenerative organics, and more. Scaling circularity is especially exciting, and we’re looking at how legislation and brand collaboration can support that.

Since 2013, Patagonia has been touring Europe with its Worn Wear repairs, visiting trade shows, events, and festivals
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For ISPO, we talk to stakeholders across the industry. If you had one wish for the sporting goods and apparel industry, what would it be?

On the topic of circularity—let’s collaborate. If you don’t know where to start, knock on our door. We’re happy to share tools and ideas. Sometimes brands are hesitant, worrying that customers won’t embrace change. But you don’t have to overhaul everything at once. Start small—maybe with one product or one color—and see how it goes. Legislation will push us all further, but collaboration and small steps can make a big difference.

Those are great final words—dare to try, collaborate, and take small steps. Thank you for being here, Wendy Savage!

Thank you. It was a pleasure.

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